Last night I asked you what this beauty was....having had it sent to me by Erwin Uebel, transportation director at Venezuela's finest heavy hauler Transporte Faga y Bovinelli C.A. Well I've had a few suggestions, incuding the suggestion that it was a Pacific. However, Erwin has since told me that it's a Hayes and adds: "The Hayes is really unique.It's got a 12-cylinder two stroke Detroit engine and a Allison gearbox with a 4-speed Spicer reduction gear behind the main transmission. Furthermore we stretched the chassis around 40 centimeters. Counterweight is around 35 tons."
And he goes on to say: "I have a even more unusual truck---it's a Cline 250 with Cummins and Allison and Spicer. This truck have 38 tons counterweight. Total around 60 tons strong but very unflexible in turnarounds like the Hayes. In addition we also have a 1948 Mack as a winch truck which has chain drive. Best regards, Erwin."
Now for BLB's anorak army a couple of questions:
1/. The Hayes and the Pacific look familiar--were they one in the same company or two similar makes building similar trucks?
2/. Cline? That's a new one on me...anyone got any picturwes of them Martin, Richard?
Hayes and Pacific were entirely separate companies although allegedly it was a bunch of ex-Hayes employees who established Pacific Truck & Trailer (to give them their full name).
Hayes were in business until September 1975 and the one in the picture is an HDX with what sounds as though it could be a 12V71! Pacific were in business until the 1990s as far as I know. There's still a lot of Hayes and Pacifics out and about working in forests, mines and of course on heavy haulage duties.
As for Cline, well the marque is a bit obscure but they built off-road dump trucks primarily for the coal mines in the USA and also produced some big heavy haulage tractors.
Brian, As Martin says, cline built dump trucks under the direction of Max Cline who also was chief engineer at KW Dart part of the Paccar group and built heavy dump trucks. He also founded a company called Rimpull, who again built construction equipment with a special type of planetary axles that acted directly onto the wheel rim, hence the name. Don't as how I know this, just accept it as a sad fact of my life
Rgds Bob Beech
p.s. I told young Toby Ovens he looked like a possible gay icon , in Tommy's photos
The Cline truck would have been built by Max Cline. Max was my Great Uncle. His brother (my grandfather) is still alive and could probably answer any questions about any Cline or Dart trucks. I didn't know that Max also founded a company named Rimpull.
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P.S. I am woundering how much is the power of that Hayes in the picture?
Regarding your question concerning Hayes and Pacific: Pacific Truck and Trailer is still in business in Abbottsford, BC, just outside Vancouver. I've bought a number of blue prints from them and parts are still available. The last Pacific produced had a 12V71 Detroit and was shipped to the States. Hayes was at one time owned by Paccar and also by Mack Trucks. Hayes trucks were actually produced with Peterbilt cabs and also Mack cabs. Material regarding Hayes is rather scarce. The rumor always was that Hayes was purchased because it was such a good truck, no one could build it better. There are quite a number of these still running in the oil patch in western Canada.