I've had this e-mail from Richard Stanier who says: "Hi Brian, Knowing how much your beloved Biglorryblog Army loves a mystery truck competition, any chance you can post these three beauties up for a pie? I reckon they are quite tough, but not impossible and will definitely sort out the anoraks from the boys!
I will post up the answers after a suitable time.Cheers, Rich." No problem mate, you call I haul..or err...something like that anyway.
And they must be pretty old whatever they are 'cos they're all in black & white! Now click through here for one more brain-teaser...
Hmmmm..three tough ones there Richard. OK anorak Army get cracking!
Comments (8)
Well, I though that the first one looked, from this angle, rather like a Rowe Hillmaster, but did they make a 6-wheeler? I did think about the Norde, but they had either a Bowyer or a Bedford cab, depending upon the model.
No idea about the second, but I would suspect the third to be an Ancient Briton, looking at the RHD, but with a local cab.
Having seen photos of locally-cabbed Portugese Atkis before, I wonder if it is indeed an Atkinson?
Any sniff of a pie here??
Posted by Chris Gardner | July 7, 2008 4:18 PM
Posted on July 7, 2008 16:18
More than a sniff, Chris. Probably a crust, but not the full pie.
The first is definately Rowe Hillmaster-esque as you say. But was there a six wheeler?
The third is a good call on the Portugese cab, but it's not an Atki!
Posted by Richard Stanier | July 7, 2008 5:33 PM
Posted on July 7, 2008 17:33
I am inclined to agree with Chris about the first picture, I thing that Rowes would build more or less anything ordered therefore a six wheeler would have been possible. Many Hillmasters had 'suicide doors' to the cab but there were some with front hinged doors as in the photograph.
The second picture is a Valmet many of which had AEC engines, sorry I dont know the model etc.
The third picture is obviously fitted with a local cab and looking at the wheels could be a 'Poden' (Foden has an unfortunate meaning in Portuguese) or an AEC Mammoth Major, I am more drawn to the latter as there is a small triangular area at the top of the very ornate radiator grille which resembles a scaled up version of the one used on early BMMO motorway coaches!
Posted by D Powell | July 7, 2008 5:45 PM
Posted on July 7, 2008 17:45
My first thought for the six wheeler with its back rather rudely turned towards us was a Rowe Hillmaster too, and unfortunately I haven't had a second thought yet! Number two the much beloved Finnish Vanaja and the third possibly a Portuguese-cabbed AEC? When you think of the roads in Portugal, THAT eight wheeler must have been some sort of handful thirty or more years ago whatever it was Nice selection Rich and thank you!
Posted by Martin Phippard | July 7, 2008 5:49 PM
Posted on July 7, 2008 17:49
I'm not quite convinced about the Rowe - could it be a prototype GRP cab from ERF?
The second is a Vanaja from Finland and I think the third is a locally cabbed AEC Mammoth Major.
I think we're going to end up sharing the pie with these.
Posted by Nick Santon | July 7, 2008 8:27 PM
Posted on July 7, 2008 20:27
A sterling effort gentlemen!
The first is indeed a Rowe Hillmaster 6 wheeler captured whilst on test by "Her Majesty's truck press".
The second is the Finnish Vanaja with AEC engine, from an AEC archive photo.
The Portugese cabbed Brit is not an AEC or a Foden, but AEC is closer. Any more ideas?!
Posted by Richard Stanier | July 7, 2008 10:45 PM
Posted on July 7, 2008 22:45
Could be a Scammell then. They were popular in Portugal I believe.
Posted by Martin Phippard | July 8, 2008 6:08 AM
Posted on July 8, 2008 06:08
The Portugese eight wheeler is a Thornycroft.
Great efforts, guys!
Posted by Richard Stanier | July 8, 2008 7:08 AM
Posted on July 8, 2008 07:08